Keep offline volumes in the index

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Keep offline volumes in the index

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To keep offline volumes in Everything 1.4 or later:
  • In Everything, from the Tools menu, click Options.
  • Click the NTFS tab.
  • Uncheck Automatically remove offline volumes.
  • Click OK.
When enabled, keep offline volumes will:
  • Allow offline volumes to stay in the index.
  • Not rebuild the database when the volume goes offline.
  • Automatically update the index when the volume comes back online with out doing a full rebuild.
  • Rebuild the database if a volume has changed too much.
  • Detect changes to the volume while it is online.
  • Offline indexes will be lost when the index is rebuilt. All volumes must be online when Everything builds its index.
Enable keep offline volumes in Everything 1.3
To enable keep missing volumes:
  • Exit Everything
  • Edit your Everything.ini
  • add the following line to the end of the Everything.ini:

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    keep_missing_indexes=1
  • Save changes and restart Everything.
Requirements:
Requires Everything 1.3.4.672b or later
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Re: Keep offline volumes in the index

Post by galneon »

A great feature I've been waiting for. Is it tied strictly to volume letter? Curious to know under what conditions an index may be lost to a similarly named volume of another drive.
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Re: Keep offline volumes in the index

Post by void »

Is it tied strictly to volume letter?
Everything identifies volumes by their volume GUID and path.
If either change Everything must rebuild its database.

If you have volumes that share the same path, Everything will still rebuild the database if the online volume GUID differs to the one indexed.
I hope to improve this in a future release.
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Re: Keep offline volumes in the index

Post by galneon »

Hmm I think I've hit an issue different from that limitation. This has happened to me twice now on 672b: When I disconnect a drive, Everything turns empty (0 objects) until I close and restart it, then it rebuilds the database. That was with keep_missing_volumes=1, but after reloading Everything and checking the ini, the line is gone (independent of the drive disconnect issue--the line disappears every time I run the application). I've tried several times now and I can't seem to get the option to stick. I'm now on 676b and same story.
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Re: Keep offline volumes in the index

Post by sheppaul »

Wow, I've never guessed if it is possible to do like this.. What an amazing feature!
galneon wrote:Hmm I think I've hit an issue different from that limitation. This has happened to me twice now on 672b: When I disconnect a drive, Everything turns empty (0 objects) until I close and restart it, then it rebuilds the database. That was with keep_missing_volumes=1, but after reloading Everything and checking the ini, the line is gone (independent of the drive disconnect issue--the line disappears every time I run the application).
I have a same issue. By the way, I really love this feature!!!

ps. Is it possible to distinguish between online and offline files visually?
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Re: Keep offline volumes in the index

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Hmm I think I've hit an issue different from that limitation. This has happened to me twice now on 672b: When I disconnect a drive, Everything turns empty (0 objects) until I close and restart it, then it rebuilds the database. That was with keep_missing_volumes=1, but after reloading Everything and checking the ini, the line is gone (independent of the drive disconnect issue--the line disappears every time I run the application).
Do you have store settings and data in %APPDATA%\Everything option disabled in Tools -> Options -> General?

Are you changing the %APPDATA%\Everything\Everything.ini?

Do you have other installations of Everything installed? Check if the old Everything 1.2 is still running on start-up, this could cause the Everything.ini to partially reset.

What is displayed in the debug console when disconnecting a drive and Everything builds?
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Re: Keep offline volumes in the index

Post by void »

Is it possible to distinguish between online and offline files visually?
I will look into making offline files grayed.
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Re: Keep offline volumes in the index

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I do have that setting disabled as I have a portable Everything (on a drive that is always live). I'm editing Everything.ini within my Everything directory, which is also where the db is (Database location path correctly points to it). This is definitely the only instance of Everything running or even present. It's the x64 build.

http://pastebin.com/zhFY4P73

I connected drive O: with Everything not running, ran Everything making sure keep_missing_volumes=1 was in the .ini, then disconnected O: once Everything was idle. Nothing happened. I connected O: again, this time while Everything was running (this is how I would normally connect a drive), and the db was rebuilt. I disconnected O:, and the DB was rebuilt again, this time excluding the now-offline O:. I then checked Everything.ini to find keep_missing_volumes=1 had disappeared entirely. This is consistent with the behavior I experienced twice before.
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Re: Keep offline volumes in the index

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Thanks for the debug output.
GetOverlappedResult failed 21 (O:) retrying in 30 seconds...
open volume v
CreateFileW(): GetLastError(): 2: Failed to open volume v
opened -1 0.000952
monitor thread exit
From the debug output I can see that the monitor thread exits when the volume fails to open, causing the db to rebuild.
This should never happen if keep_missing_indexes is set to 1.

Did you completely exit Everything before adding this setting to the Everything.ini?
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Post by galneon »

Yes. I've been as clinical as I can possibly be I'm afraid. I'll try an entirely virgin setup sometime soon with strictly default settings, with the exception of keep_missing_volumes=1 of course. This is the last remaining feature I really need in order to replace Cathy entirely.
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Re: Keep offline volumes in the index

Post by void »

Updated, I had the wrong ini setting name above, it was keep_missing_volumes, but it should be:

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keep_missing_indexes=1
Sorry for the inconvenience.
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Re: Keep offline volumes in the index

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Hahah, that's great. Thank you. Very little time wasted and I'm glad to contribute in some tiny way to this amazing program.
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Re: Keep offline volumes in the index

Post by sheppaul »

It works great.

By the way, I found a weird operation.

I have four hdds keeping offline volumes and these index has gone when I connect usb-hdd.
Those index data of W, X, Y, Z drives seems to be lost while rebuilding the index of a newly attached usb-hdd.

always online: C, D, E, T

keep offline: W, X, Y, Z (built-in hdd rack)

usb-hdd: K
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Re: Keep offline volumes in the index

Post by void »

Added:
  • Offline indexes will be lost when the index is rebuilt. All volumes must be online when Everything builds its index.
Unfortunately, the offline indexes will be lost when the indexes are rebuilt. Once the K: usb-hdd is included it shouldn't happen again. I have plans to fix this in a future release..
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Re: Keep offline volumes in the index

Post by sheppaul »

Thank you for your consideration.

I have one question though.

I'm not sure but searching offline index feels a bit slower comparing performance when the very volumes are online state.

Is there any perceivable limitation of loading speed of list index with the number of index? (I have index over 1 million)

How to turn off the option, "sort by"? I'd like to compare the loading speed of the option but it seems not to disable the option.
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Re: Keep offline volumes in the index

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Everything will attempt to load file dates, sizes and attributes for the displayed files. This might cause a delay when displaying the results that are offline.
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Re: Keep offline volumes in the index

Post by sheppaul »

Thanks for quick answer.

It makes sense.

But what if the columns of file dates, sizes and attributes are turned off?

Actually I don't use it for my purpose. Is there any room to speed up?
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Re: Keep offline volumes in the index

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How to turn off the option, "sort by"? I'd like to compare the loading speed of the option but it seems not to disable the option.
There is no option to disable the sort by option.
You can change the default sort in Tools -> Options -> Home.
But what if the columns of file dates, sizes and attributes are turned off?
If you disable these columns Everything will not attempt to load this information.
However, Everything will still attempt to load the icons if they are visible, which will also cause the delay issue.
Actually I don't use it for my purpose. Is there any room to speed up?
Not at this stage, sorry.
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Re: Keep offline volumes in the index

Post by sheppaul »

It's enough.

everything is really great and I've never seen such a thing since I started my computer life.

Thank you again. :mrgreen:
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Re: Keep offline volumes in the index

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I am not quite sure to understand this thread. The settings I have tried do not work for me.

I would like to always keep all of my (external) drives (plugged off or not) in the index. And I would like to have not any double entries in the search results. How would I have to do the settings in Everything?
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Re: Keep offline volumes in the index

Post by salazor »

Everything indexes only file names and attributes option keep_missing_indexes=1 works well, but I propose you to do so: Add any external disks as .efu ie Menu | Tools | File lists editor farther you will know - then Options | File list and add files .efu - you will have a file name, size, attributes, modification and creation date.

Remember that there was no duplicates keep_missing_indexes=0
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Re: Keep offline volumes in the index

Post by Biff »

Thank you, salazor.
and attributes option keep_missing_indexes=1 works well
I do not understand it, each time you plug in / off a drive Everything creates a new index and after the files of the external drives plugged off are not listed / shown anymore. How could one avoid it?
Add any external disks as .efu ie Menu | Tools | File lists editor farther you will know - then Options | File list and add files .efu - you will have a file name, size, attributes, modification and creation date.
I might have understand it right. And those lists automatically are indexed / re-created / updated when a drive is plugged in? And what is the difference to "Indexes", tab "Folders"?

And how could I avoid Everything to show the same file more than once? When an external drive is plugged in and automatically indexed Everything shows all of the files / folders twice.
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Re: Keep offline volumes in the index

Post by void »

I do not understand it, each time you plug in / off a drive Everything creates a new index and after the files of the external drives plugged off are not listed / shown anymore. How could one avoid it?
This will be fixed in the next release of Everything.
For now please consider file lists.
I might have understand it right. And those lists automatically are indexed / re-created / updated when a drive is plugged in?
File lists were initially designed for static file lists, for example, a CD-Rom.
File lists must be manually recreated and the index must be manually rebuilt.
I hope to add file list change monitoring in the next release.
And what is the difference to "Indexes", tab "Folders"?
The same issue you have with NTFS volumes will occur with folder indexing.
When the index is rebuilt and the volumes are offline, the folder indexes will appear empty until the volume is online.
This will be fixed in the next update.
And how could I avoid Everything to show the same file more than once? When an external drive is plugged in and automatically indexed Everything shows all of the files / folders twice.
Remove duplicated indexes you may have in the NTFS tab or Folders tab.
NTFS volumes are automatically included, so please try removing the folders index first.
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Re: Keep offline volumes in the index

Post by Biff »

Many thanks, void,

So I can't wait for the next update, that sounds very great.

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Remove duplicated indexes you may have in the NTFS tab or Folders tab.
NTFS volumes are automatically included, so please try removing the folders index first.
Actually I meant without removing such an index. So after (or before) a drive is plugged in I would have to remove the folder / NTFS indexes and before plugging it off I would have to add those indexes since I want them during the time the drive is pugged off. That might be a bit circumstantial at the moment, but after that fix in the next release it won't be necessary anyway, if I understand it right.

Alright, I assume I have not yet entirely understood the difference between using the file lists, folder and NTFS indexes, but for now I know how I can use them to handle the unplugged drives.

Many thanks again.
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Re: Keep offline volumes in the index

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Actually I meant without removing such an index. So after (or before) a drive is plugged in I would have to remove the folder / NTFS indexes and before plugging it off I would have to add those indexes since I want them during the time the drive is pugged off. That might be a bit circumstantial at the moment, but after that fix in the next release it won't be necessary anyway, if I understand it right.
There is currently no way around the duplication when you have a NTFS and folder index of the same volume.
The next update should remove the need for adding duplicated volumes in the first place.
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Re: Keep offline volumes in the index

Post by Biff »

Alright, I understand, cannot wait for the update, many thanks, void.
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Re: Keep offline volumes in the index

Post by myNameIsJonny! »

Hi, just want to clarify something, I want to keep external hard-drives indexed in my EXT db, using keep_missing_indexes

I'm running everything portable amongst my multiple builds, so C has different GUID.
Auto include new removable volumes
Automatically include new removable volumes in Everything.
Everything must rebuild the database when a volume path, volume guid, the USN Journal ID changes or the volume goes offline.
See the Everything.ini option keep_missing_indexes to keep offline volumes in the index.
I see some volume info in .ini, even after unticking options for C: I have the following

ntfs_volume_paths="C:","D:","F:","L:","G:","H:","I:","T:","K:"
ntfs_volume_includes=0,0,1,1,1,1,0,1,1
ntfs_volume_load_recent_changes=0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
ntfs_volume_include_onlys="","","","","","","","",""
ntfs_volume_monitors=0,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1


Should I remove the C volume path ^^?
Do I need to edit any of the other related settings (volume_monitors etc- counting now I see there is a match, so I guess if I remove the first parameter from each, that'll reflect the C volume NOT being indexed?

Will I then be able to use a communal database pointing to indexed (but disconnected) volumes? (providing they are assigned another letter, or another volume is assigned their letter etc)?

Thanks!
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Re: Keep offline volumes in the index

Post by skan »

Hello

Is it also working for usb pendrives?
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Re: Keep offline volumes in the index

Post by gdmellott »

I wonder why the "rebuilding" of the index needs to require the program to stop. Why not have the index search and viewer use the old index until the new one is made and put a blinking status bar message, or popup warning, stating that the index still is being refined.

The ideal goal for this program would be for it to maintain an complete an index of all of ones file, whether they were online or not. Noting their online/offline status with a differing color or shade of text. Perhaps there should be a simple button to skip displaying offline files, should that generate too many, or otherwise not be desired at the time. What presently makes things hard, is dealing with a 4TB backup drive one would prefer to not have on all time, or otherwise need to leave behind for a while, or perhaps suspend the computer, etc. and thus find it needs to remake the index all over again. One waits a long time for it to get done so one can use the program's index searching functionality again.

Frankly, I'd be interested in noting if I have files that have gone missing, particularly out of certain directories and there subs.

Also, I'm not sure how you go about updating the index, yet it is my understanding that one only needs to note the date each folder was last modified to determine if it needs more checking of each file to find the ones modified. The updating works fast, so that may be the method used. In any case, I have near nothing against having a sub index for a given drive stored on the drive itself, should that make things simpler for working with removable drives that wonder between more than one computer.
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Re: Keep offline volumes in the index

Post by myNameIsJonny! »

gdmellott wrote:I wonder why the "rebuilding" of the index needs to require the program to stop. Why not have the index search and viewer use the old index until the new one is made and put a blinking status bar message, or popup warning, stating that the index still is being refined.

The ideal goal for this program would be for it to maintain an complete an index of all of ones file, whether they were online or not. Noting their online/offline status with a differing color or shade of text. Perhaps there should be a simple button to skip displaying offline files, should that generate too many, or otherwise not be desired at the time. What presently makes things hard, is dealing with a 4TB backup drive one would prefer to not have on all time, or otherwise need to leave behind for a while, or perhaps suspend the computer, etc. and thus find it needs to remake the index all over again. One waits a long time for it to get done so one can use the program's index searching functionality again.

Frankly, I'd be interested in noting if I have files that have gone missing, particularly out of certain directories and there subs.

Also, I'm not sure how you go about updating the index, yet it is my understanding that one only needs to note the date each folder was last modified to determine if it needs more checking of each file to find the ones modified. The updating works fast, so that may be the method used. In any case, I have near nothing against having a sub index for a given drive stored on the drive itself, should that make things simpler for working with removable drives that wonder between more than one computer.
if that's a FR, ya got my vote :)
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Re: Keep offline volumes in the index

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This topic is the reason I signed up for an account...

So I have this requirement:

I have a drive that frequently goes dormant when idle for more than 30 minutes (a backup drive) and occasionally Everything will have to re-index. Inconveniently, it's a huge USB 2.0 drive array, a Drobo, so it takes on the order of 10+ minutes to complete the indexing. During that time, Everything is not usable.

I enabled "keep_missing_indexes=1" just now, and that does solve appear to solve the disconnect problem. (yay!)

BUT...

I have *another* drive, with transient data on it. When it mounts, I want to index it. But when it unmounts, I want it to go away. I tested just now, and it's data appear to stay around now that "keep_missing_indexes=1".

So to summarize:
I would like *some* drives to stay indexed with disconnected, and some *other* drives's data discarded when disconnected.

Is there a way to accomplish that?
(loving the program - only had it a month, and can't live without it... sent a donation today!)
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Re: Keep offline volumes in the index

Post by Chender »

Hi!
Sometimes I don't want to use the datas of my removable drives. Then they aren't in my computer. How can I generate a new index file without them?
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Re: Keep offline volumes in the index

Post by void »

Sometimes I don't want to use the datas of my removable drives. Then they aren't in my computer. How can I generate a new index file without them?
In Everything 1.4, to automatically remove offline volumes:
  • In Everything, from the Tools menu, click Options.
  • Click the NTFS tab on the left
  • Check Automatically remove offline volumes.
  • Click OK.
To manually remove offline volumes:
  • In Everything, from the Tools menu, click Options.
  • Click the NTFS tab on the left
  • Select the offline volume.
  • Click Remove.
  • Click OK.
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Post by Chender »

Thanks a lot!
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Re: Keep offline volumes in the index

Post by Marc2222 »

It is not working here... I set the line in the ini file but it doesn't display results for offline volumes. What is odd is that I disconnected a drive with the letter "I:" and connected another drive with the same letter. After that results for the first "I" drive are displayed even though is not the same drive... I'm using version 1.3.4.686 (x86) with the read only parameter.
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Re: Keep offline volumes in the index

Post by void »

When Everything is in read only mode, offline files are always displayed.
If the offline files are not displayed, then they have been lost.
You will need to bring these offline volumes online and re-index.
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Post by burgundy »

void wrote:When Everything is in read only mode, offline files are always displayed.
If the offline files are not displayed, then they have been lost.
You will need to bring these offline volumes online and re-index.
Is there any way to *not* display the offline files when the external drive is not attached but still keep the file entries in the database?
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Post by Biff »

When enabled, keep offline volumes will:
Offline indexes will be lost when the index is rebuilt. All volumes must be online when Everything builds its index.
So this means offline drives / indexes cannot be kept always. When one closes Everything and starts it or for another reason Everything rebuilds the index the offline indexes will be gone, is that right? So there is no way to alway keep all the offline indexes with "Automatically remove offline volumes" unchecked?
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Re: Keep offline volumes in the index

Post by salazor »

I have 3 offline volumes - I rebuilt the database I closed Everything and restarted "offline volumes" are still in the database - option "Automatically remove offline volumes" is unchecked.

Version 1.4.1.877
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Re: Keep offline volumes in the index

Post by Biff »

Many thanks, salazor,

That's strange, this "Offline indexes will be lost when the index is rebuilt." appears to say something different.

I reforced a rebuild and the offline indexes are kept, that's great.

Many thanks again
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Re: Keep offline volumes in the index

Post by aindriu80 »

hi,

I have an external hard disk - 1tb in size and 600gb full.. I take it by default it was starting afresh every time my computer started up ?
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=6368

I have it unticked so hopefully it will keep the index in memory?
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Was there a bug in this feature that was recently fixed, or an unknown bug still present?

I was running v 1.4.1.924.x64, on Win7 x64, and I had "Automatically Remove Offline Volumes" uncheckmarked.

I disconnected an external USB HDD connected to the system running Everything. It has NTFS filesystem, was disconnected for a few weeks. Everything lost the database contents for it. It did re-sync the database when I reconnected that external HDD, but I needed to keep the database contents while it's unplugged.

When looking at the setting for "Automatically Remove Offline Volumes", I do have that external HDD selected, am not looking at the settings for a different drive. Also it is always (is assigned) the same drive letter so that isn't changing.

I can't find anything I could do differently to make it keep the database for this drive? I don't recall doing any force rebuild on it.

I did follow the instructions in this post, but nothing there seemed wrong:
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=6234#p18687

Anyway I have updated to the latest ver 1.4.1.935.x64, and when I did that, I noticed that ver. 1.4.1.924 isn't in the stable prior versions list on the website. Is it possible this was the reason it wasn't considered a stable version?

It's just tricky for me to try to figure out the timing of this happening, because I also have a 2nd external USB HDD hooked up, that also goes offline, but instead of weeks it only goes offline for roughly a couple days at a time (never as long as the other HDD), but I have never detected its database contents being lost, so I am "assuming it has something to do with how long the drive is disconnected?

Is it possible that stopping Everything then restarting it could cause this? This is the only thing I can think of that's unique, that a week ago I had a power outage flicker that caused the system running everything to reboot, and yet after that, it still had the database for the 2nd external HDD that's only unplugged for a couple days at a time.
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I have multiple internal drives, and many external NTFS drives, total of 15 external drives. In the last few days I have put each of the external drives online, done maintenance on them, and Everything has properly indexed all files. I am a new user to this program and have the latest build running on Windows 10 fully up to date. But when I started Everything today, eight of the formerly indexed external drives no long appear at all in the index window, but do show up in the NTFS listing as offline disks.
On NTFS options, Automatically remove offline is unchecked but everything else is checked on that tab except Load recent changes from USN journal. I tried unsuccessfully increasing the USN size to the max 32768 recommended in the setup before.
So what am I doing wrong or what can I do to be sure that all files on all disks are indexed, please?
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Post by miken »

Hi. New to the forum; but not to Everything. I love it - But...- my problem is the OPPOSITE of this thread.
- my searches show removed volumes results and I don't know how to stop it. Sometimes it is great to see where something is - but it's confusing when they show on every search. This seemed best place to ask... I didn't find my problem elsewhere - but sorry if it is inappropriate.

In 'Tools/Options/Indexes/Folders' I have the possible flash drive letters listed (D:,E:, etc).
Also checked 'Attempt to monitor changes' - but this does not seem to affect my problem if checked or unchecked.
Under /Indexes/NTFS/ - I also have checked the two options 'Automatically include...'; and the third option 'Automatically remove offline volumes'.
But my 'removed volumes' flash drive results still show up in results of searches.

My current solution is to put '!D:' or similar to exclude manually in a search - but doing this on many searches this is tedious...
Please someone, explain what I am doing wrong.... what to change...
- Thank you!
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Post by raccoon »

Check the NTFS and the FAT tabs for your flash drive letters.

Under normal conditions, you should no longer have your flash drives under the Folders section. Go ahead and clear out all entries under the Folders section unless there is a special situation I am unaware of.

With all of your volumes now appearing under the NTFS and FAT tabs accordingly, turn on [x] "Automatically remove offline volumes", or select the individual letters you do not want to be indexed and turn off [x] "Include in database" for each one.

Now you should only see the desired drive letters.
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Post by miken »

Thanks for reply, but I regret it does not work
Am using installed Version 1.4.1.969 (x64). The flash drive letters were entered into Folders, from Folders 'Add' button, for them to become searchable. They are FAT32. (This solution was found by internet search.)

Under /Indexes/NTFS/ I only have < OS (C:) > (no brackets). At this moment, USB flash drives attached are D:, E:, F:, and are FAT32.
I do not have a FAT index section - and FAT is not mentioned anywhere else that I can find anywhere on Options.

To check your solution, I removed their drive letters from 'Folders' listing. Everything no longer 'saw' them.
I already have the option checked [x] "Automatically remove offline volumes" as mentioned in my first post.
I completely closed Everything, checked by 'Process Explorer', then restarted it. I have not re-booted.
Flash drives remain no longer visible to Everything search.
I re-entered drive letters to Folders, through the 'Add' button. They have now become searchable again.
I removed one flash drive - but its files still show in relevant searches, as before.

- If a separate 'FAT' indexing exists, as you mention, how do I make it visible/ or usable?
- or is there another way to make these FAT32 drives searchable apart from listing under 'Folders'?
As they are listed under 'Folders', perhaps that is why they do not obey the option [x] "Automatically remove offline volumes" ?
- Any other ideas, please?
Thanks
void
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Re: Keep offline volumes in the index

Post by void »

To add your non-NTFS USB flash drives to your Everything index:
  • In Everything, from the Tools menu, click Options.
  • Click the Folders tab.
  • Click Add....
  • Select your USB flash drives and click OK.
  • Click OK.


Native FAT support is in development.
miken
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Re: Keep offline volumes in the index

Post by miken »

SOLUTION FOUND:
Thanks for trying. I have now found both explanation and solution, by different 'googling. Void has answers on this forum and FAQ's.
1) It is the correct procedure to add the FAT32 and other not-recognised drives (not NTFS or not local?) under 'Folders'.
2) It is also correct behaviour that these are Indexed - and still show their relevant files on search - with their drive letter (and path..?) when the drives are removed.
3) The solution is in the Alpha build '1.5' which has separate FAT listing - (see Board index > Everything> Everything 1.5 Alpha >Indexing...)
4) I am downloading the latest 1.5 Alpha build to try out, at first as a stand-alone (zip download), while also updating to current latest normal-release 1.4.1.1015 for the moment...

Enjoy... !
(My continued thanks go out to Void for your excellent tool, that I have recommended to many, many other users...and have gratefully used for years, never using Windows search if I can avoid it - !)
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Re: Keep offline volumes in the index

Post by raccoon »

I'm sorry I failed you. I thought I was in the Everything 1.5 Alpha board when I replied to your message. I did not realize you were using 1.4. That's my bad.
void
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Re: Keep offline volumes in the index

Post by void »

1) It is the correct procedure to add the FAT32 and other not-recognised drives (not NTFS or not local?) under 'Folders'.
You can add any file system folder under Tools -> Options -> Folders.
Even NTFS folders. (might be useful for following folder junctions)

Native NTFS indexing under Tools -> Options -> NTFS is faster and more reliable.

2) It is also correct behaviour that these are Indexed - and still show their relevant files on search - with their drive letter (and path..?) when the drives are removed.
Folder indexes stay in your index until removed.
This means in Everything you can search the full path and filename of offline folders.
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