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fibonacci
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Everything not allowing sent to email receipient

Post by fibonacci » Tue Dec 18, 2018 9:48 am

Hi Void
All previous versions prior 1.4.1.922 allowed me to search for files and then rightmouse click from Everything search results on the file and "send to recipient" which would open up outlook email ready with file attached to send.

922 does not allow this anymore. I am running Windows 7-64. Nothing has changed other than installing most reent version of Everything.

I've tried the following:
- tried run as service or run as admin both times rebooting
- tried uninstalling and reinstalling again to no avail

Please help as i need to be able to perform the above function i.e. right-mouse click from Everything search results on the file and "send to recipient"

Cheers

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Re: Everything not allowing sent to email receipient

Post by void » Tue Dec 18, 2018 10:09 am

"send to recipient" is working ok for me with Everything 1.4.1.922 x86/x64

The following changes were made to the Everything right click / context menu (v895 -> v922):
  • Fixed an issue with popup context menu items below a menu separator not appearing.
  • The Everything Open/Explore context menu items are set as the default menu items if the replaced Windows Open/Explorer menu items were the default.
  • Fixed an issue when the context menu was empty.
Is the "send to recipient" option missing completely for you? or does it do nothing when you click on it?

Is your mail client already running? is it running as administrator?

Can you please confirm Everything is running as a standard user:
In Everything, type in the following search and press ENTER:
/debug

What is shown towards the top of the debug console? -you should see something like:
IsAdmin 0

To close the debug console:
In Everything, type in the following search and press ENTER:
/debug

Does the "send to recipient" right click menu option work in Windows Explorer?

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Re: Everything not allowing sent to email receipient

Post by fibonacci » Tue Dec 18, 2018 10:17 am

Thanks Void,

"send to recipient" exists and has always being there and worked on previous versions of Everything.
It does nothing when i click
/debug
Everything
Version 1.4.1.922 (x64)
Windows NT 6.1
Processors 8
IsAdmin 1
AppData 0
Service 1

I tried both running as admin and running as service.

Yes it works from windows explorer.

Any other ideas much appreciated otherwise i will go back to previous version.

Thanks in advance

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Re: Everything not allowing sent to email receipient

Post by fibonacci » Tue Dec 18, 2018 10:19 am

forgot to add

mail client is running as admin the same it has for years. Outlook 2010.

nothing has changed other than i installed 922.

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Re: Everything not allowing sent to email receipient

Post by void » Tue Dec 18, 2018 10:22 am

IsAdmin 1
Everything is running as administrator which might be causing the issue..

Could you please try disabling "Run this program as an administrator":
  • Right click your Everything shortcut or Everything.exe
  • Click Properties.
  • Click the Compatibility tab.
  • Uncheck Run this program as an administrator.
  • Click OK.
  • Restart Everything (right click the Everything tray icon and click Exit).
Could you please try running Everything as a standard user:
  • In Everything, from the Tools menu, click Options.
  • Click the General tab on the left.
  • Check Everything service.
  • Uncheck Run as administrator.
  • Click OK.
  • Restart Everything (right click the Everything tray icon and click Exit).
Could you please make sure your Email client is not running before clicking on "send to recipient".

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Re: Everything not allowing sent to email receipient

Post by fibonacci » Tue Dec 18, 2018 10:30 am

disabling "Run this program as an administrator": did not fix it

try running Everything as a standard user: did not fix

with outlook closed
when rightmouse click sent to recipient outlook would open and then close i.e. do nothing.

with outlook open somehtign would flash fast but no new email ready to send attachment.

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Re: Everything not allowing sent to email receipient

Post by fibonacci » Tue Dec 18, 2018 10:36 am

ok something weird is going on
eventhough i unchecked Uncheck Run this program as an administrator.
/debug still says ISADMIN=1

any ideas?

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Re: Everything not allowing sent to email receipient

Post by fibonacci » Tue Dec 18, 2018 10:43 am

i just ran portable version of 921 and "sent to email" attachment worked from within Everything search results window.

As far as my computer is concerned it has issues with 922

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Re: Everything not allowing sent to email receipient

Post by void » Tue Dec 18, 2018 10:45 am

Did you completely exit Everything when restarting Everything?
Did you change both settings that will launch Everything as an administrator?

Please check your Everything.ini in the same location as your Everything.exe
Please make sure the following setting is set to zero:
run_as_admin=0

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Re: Everything not allowing sent to email receipient

Post by void » Tue Dec 18, 2018 10:47 am

Was 921 running as administrator?

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Re: Everything not allowing sent to email receipient

Post by fibonacci » Tue Dec 18, 2018 10:51 am

yes i did change both settings and each time exited from Everything.

here is first few lines of INI

[Everything]
run_as_admin=0
allow_http_server=1
allow_etp_server=1
window_x=198
window_y=198
window_wide=785
window_high=650
maximized=0
minimized=0
fullscreen=0
ontop=0

In v921 general settings are different
Run as admin is checked
Everything service is checked but greyed
Show Everything in context menu is checked but greyed

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Re: Everything not allowing sent to email receipient

Post by fibonacci » Tue Dec 18, 2018 11:00 am

and yes properties and run as admin is unchecked

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Re: Everything not allowing sent to email receipient

Post by void » Tue Dec 18, 2018 11:29 am

Could you please try the portable version of Everything 922:
  • Completely exit any running version of Everything.
  • Extract the portable version of Everything 922 to a new folder.
  • Launch the portable Everything.exe as admin.
  • Does the "send to recipient" context menu item work?

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Re: Everything not allowing sent to email receipient

Post by fibonacci » Tue Dec 18, 2018 11:36 am

ok did as you said and portable 922 did not work

i went to options/general and found "run as admin" was unchecked so i checked it and restarted everything.
still did not work

by the way - options/general / everything service and show context are both checked but greyed just as they in 921

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Re: Everything not allowing sent to email receipient

Post by void » Tue Dec 18, 2018 11:51 am

The only thing that has changed between 921 and 922 is a new code signing certificate.

It could be this new certificate causing the issue, although it seems unlikely.

What anti-virus program are you using? perhaps this version is triggering something?
i went to options/general and found "run as admin" was unchecked so i checked it and restarted everything.
still did not work
Please try coping Everything.exe to a new folder, this time, please make sure you:
  • Completely exit any existing Everything instance.
  • right click the Everything.exe and click Run as administrator.
I wonder if there's some strange DDE transaction that is stuck.
What happens if you restart your Computer?
by the way - options/general / everything service and show context are both checked but greyed just as they in 921
This is normal, the service and context menu items are partially installed (installed with your original 922 and since the Everything.exe paths do not match the check box is square checked, allowing you to uninstall the option or install it with the correct Everything.exe path.)

What version of Office are you running?

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Re: Everything not allowing sent to email receipient

Post by fibonacci » Tue Dec 18, 2018 11:58 am

i copied 922 exe to a new folder and still not working.

yes i have rebooted at least half a dozen times when making the previous changes.

running office2010

i just tried the portable version of 921 again to make sure i was not seeing things and yep it works perfectly with send to attachment.

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Re: Everything not allowing sent to email receipient

Post by fibonacci » Tue Dec 18, 2018 12:05 pm

believe it or not i don't run any AV program. just a simple firewall.

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Re: Everything not allowing sent to email receipient

Post by fibonacci » Tue Dec 18, 2018 12:10 pm

ok i think i found a major revelation

portable version of 921x86 is what i was using and that worked!!!

portable version of 921x64 does not work.

so now for the ultimate test to D/L 922x86 portable and see if that works.

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Re: Everything not allowing sent to email receipient

Post by fibonacci » Tue Dec 18, 2018 12:12 pm

bingo. portable 922x86 version works!!
strange as i am running win7-64
any thoughts.

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Re: Everything not allowing sent to email receipient

Post by void » Tue Dec 18, 2018 12:14 pm

Something must be off with the shell extension that "send to recipient" is calling.
Office will most likely have both x86 and x64 shell extensions.
Everything x86 will call the x86 shell extension, while Everything x64 will call the x64 shell extension.

Currently setting up Office 2010 on a Windows 7 x64 vm, I will get back to you.

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Re: Everything not allowing sent to email receipient

Post by fibonacci » Tue Dec 18, 2018 12:18 pm

thank you

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Re: Everything not allowing sent to email receipient

Post by fibonacci » Tue Dec 18, 2018 12:26 pm

ok - it's bed time down under in Australia. Will continue again this time tomorrow if not earlier.

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Re: Everything not allowing sent to email receipient

Post by horst.epp » Tue Dec 18, 2018 1:12 pm

Everything Version 1.4.1.922 (x64) has no problem to create an eMail using the Send to context menu
in my case starting Thunderbird.

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Re: Everything not allowing sent to email receipient

Post by fibonacci » Wed Dec 19, 2018 2:50 am

i have an office laptop running Win7-64 with Microsoft Office2010. As a test i downloaded the portable version of 922x64.

it presented the same issue. i.e. Send to will not open up a new email from outlook.

So i downloaded 922x86 portable. And that works.

So i thought to go back to v894x64 and install that. And it works. The send to will open up an outlook new email with file attached ready to send.

Two different machines exhibit the same bug from what i can tell so far the x64 versions of 921 and 922 but not the x86 version.

I appreciate that other mail clients may work but so far Microsoft Outlook 2010 definitely has issues.

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Re: Everything not allowing sent to email receipient

Post by void » Wed Dec 19, 2018 7:31 am

Thanks for waiting..

I haven't had any luck getting this to not work..

I've tried the following without any issues:
Office 2010 SP2 x86 / Windows 7 Enterprise SP1 x64 / Everything 1.4.1.922 x64
Office 2010 SP2 x86 / Windows 7 Enterprise SP1 x64 / Everything 1.4.1.922 x86
Office 2010 SP2 x64 / Windows 7 Enterprise SP1 x64 / Everything 1.4.1.922 x64
Office 2010 SP2 x64 / Windows 7 Enterprise SP1 x64 / Everything 1.4.1.922 x86

In all cases right clicking a file in Everything and clicking Send to -> Send to recipient will open up a new outlook message with the file attached.

It seems odd that older versions of Everything x64 will work for you, and the newer ones will not..

Could you please try Everything 1.4.1.903 x64.
I have a suspicion that Everything 1.4.1.904 and later are causing issues running shell extensions with the introduction of NXCOMPAT flag and improved security with stack cookie checks /GS.

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Re: Everything not allowing sent to email receipient

Post by fibonacci » Wed Dec 19, 2018 9:23 am

Thank you Void for doing all that testing and persisting to resolve my issue.

I can happily say that 903x64 works!! yes it works!
However i also tested 904x64 and as you stated it did not work.

Is there something weird with my windows or office setup that is contributing to this issue. Just strange that my PC and my laptop both different builds at different times experience the same issue. And why x86 builds will work but not x64.

Cheers

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Re: Everything not allowing sent to email receipient

Post by void » Thu Dec 20, 2018 6:35 am

I can happily say that 903x64 works!! yes it works!
However i also tested 904x64 and as you stated it did not work.
Thanks for testing this.

Please try Everything 1.4.1.923.
I have undone the 903->904 changes.
Is there something weird with my windows or office setup that is contributing to this issue.
No, it is most likely Everything as Office is working fine from Windows Explorer and older versions of Everything.

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Re: Everything not allowing sent to email receipient

Post by fibonacci » Thu Dec 20, 2018 8:32 am

i ran 923x64 and it works. Thank you so much for staying steadfast and resolving this for me. It is much appreciated.

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