Does Everything notice a drive letter change?

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Biff
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Does Everything notice a drive letter change?

Post by Biff » Sun Sep 01, 2019 7:57 am

When a drive letter is replaced / changed, e.g. D: to F: while Everything is running, does Everything notice that and change the volume label or does it just add a new volume and keep the content of D:?

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Re: Does Everything notice a drive letter change?

Post by void » Sun Sep 01, 2019 8:13 am

Everything identifies volumes by a unique GUID, and will notice the volume has moved.

Everything should perform a reindex to resort its database.
This will remove the old D: index and add the F: index.

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Re: Does Everything notice a drive letter change?

Post by Biff » Sun Sep 01, 2019 8:40 am

OK, thank you.

But what was the reason then - sorry, I have asked something similar some time before, but forgotton reason - that I have so many D:, E: drives here in the indexes:
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Re: Does Everything notice a drive letter change?

Post by void » Sun Sep 01, 2019 9:05 am

Everything is seeing this volume as a new volume every time it is inserted.

Please try checking Automatically remove offline volumes.

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Re: Does Everything notice a drive letter change?

Post by Biff » Sun Sep 01, 2019 9:15 am

Everything is seeing this volume as a new volume every time it is inserted.
Although it has the same unique GUID and thus is the identical drive? Why is that? Sorry, for my misunderstanding.
Please try checking Automatically remove offline volumes.
But wouldn't that remove all of the volumes I need of my drives being offline / going offline (each time)? So I never could keep a volume anymore of external drives?

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Re: Does Everything notice a drive letter change?

Post by void » Sun Sep 01, 2019 9:33 am

Although it has the same unique GUID and thus is the identical drive? Why is that? Sorry, for my misunderstanding.
Windows manages volume GUIDs. In theory this GUID should remain the same for the same drive.
It looks like the GUID is changing for the same drive for you.

Do you have multiple external drives that share the same E: drive letter?
But wouldn't that remove all of the volumes I need of my drives being offline / going offline (each time)? So I never could keep a volume anymore of external drives?
Correct.
You would have to manually remove offline volumes.
Unfortunately this is tricky as Everything currently only gives you the drive letter.
Showing the volume label is on my TODO list.

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Re: Does Everything notice a drive letter change?

Post by Biff » Sun Sep 01, 2019 10:43 am

Windows manages volume GUIDs. In theory this GUID should remain the same for the same drive.
It looks like the GUID is changing for the same drive for you.
No, I don't. May be the same make and models have the same GUID (but that would not be unique, I guess)? E.g. 3 WD MyBook have they same one? Very strange.


Correct.
Okay, that would work against the reason (respectively one of the reasons) I use Everything / such a program.
You would have to manually remove offline volumes.
Unfortunately this is tricky as Everything currently only gives you the drive letter.
Showing the volume label is on my TODO list.
Very great, so I better will wait for that version.

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Re: Does Everything notice a drive letter change?

Post by NotNull » Sun Sep 01, 2019 9:03 pm

void wrote:
Sun Sep 01, 2019 8:13 am
Everything identifies volumes by a unique GUID, and will notice the volume has moved.

Everything should perform a reindex to resort its database.
This will remove the old D: index and add the F: index.
But disables the Include in database setting for that F: (if "Automatic include ..." is disabled ...)
(Everything 1.4.1.947)
Biff wrote:
Sun Sep 01, 2019 8:40 am
But what was the reason then - sorry, I have asked something similar some time before, but forgotton reason - that I have so many D:, E: drives here in the indexes:
If I remember correctly, you have (way) more disks than there are letters in the alphabet.
So driveletters have to be re-used, starting with the "lower" ones in the alphabet.



Something to consider (I might have mentioned this before):
Instead of giving each disk a drive letter, you can also "mount" them in your C:-drive, like this:
(where "Some Name" is a good description of the external disk, but don't make it too long )
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Re: Does Everything notice a drive letter change?

Post by Biff » Sun Sep 01, 2019 9:21 pm

But disables the Include in database setting for that F: (if "Automatic include ..." is disabled ...)
(Everything 1.4.1.947)
What does that mean? Is there any setting I should change?
If I remember correctly, you have (way) more disks than there are letters in the alphabet.
No no, respectively I only use the bigger drives so there are enough letters for them. I do not use the older drives anymore.
Something to consider (I might have mentioned this before):
Instead of giving each disk a drive letter, you can also "mount" them in your C:-drive, like this:
Many thanks for the gif! So I would have to do it once for each drive or the ones I want to mount in the future. And after I just can plug them in and they are recognized (automatically mounted) like a drive plugged in as usual? Nothing more to do. And the drives work like usual.
And if I change the Notebook, computer I would have to do it again (like I would have to assign all the drive letters again for normal use). There is no method to save the data and export them to the next computer, I assume.

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Re: Does Everything notice a drive letter change?

Post by NotNull » Sun Sep 01, 2019 9:35 pm

Biff wrote:
Sun Sep 01, 2019 9:21 pm
But disables the Include in database setting for that F: (if "Automatic include ..." is disabled ...)
(Everything 1.4.1.947)
What does that mean? Is there any setting I should change?
You can ignore that; it was meant for @void.

Many thanks for the gif! So I would have to do it once for each drive or the ones I want to mount in the future. And after I just can plug them in and they are recognized (automatically mounted) like a drive plugged in as usual? Nothing more to do. And the drives work like usual.
Yes, yes, correct and yes :)

And if I change the Notebook, computer I would have to do it again (like I would have to assign all the drive letters again for normal use).
Correct.

There is no method to save the data and export them to the next computer, I assume.
There might be a way to export and import those Windows settings, although I do not have any idea how (yet).
Interesting enough to figure this out. Don't buy a new computer in the next couple of days ... :)

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Re: Does Everything notice a drive letter change?

Post by Biff » Mon Sep 02, 2019 7:20 am

Alright, many thanks!

So mounting (didn't know - of course - such is possible at all in this context) here has advantages / is useful if there is no letter left anymore. Does it have an advantage even if there were enough letters left?
There might be a way to export and import those Windows settings, although I do not have any idea how (yet).
Interesting enough to figure this out. Don't buy a new computer in the next couple of days ... :)
It might be a very circumstancial procedure, I could imagine. No no, no new computer unless this one implodes or such.

By the way, is there a way to start such a gif from the beginning manually (may be by pressing F5 but that would be a bit slow), at any time? Or to pause it? Or jump back and forward? I do not think so, but...

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Re: Does Everything notice a drive letter change?

Post by NotNull » Mon Sep 02, 2019 10:01 am

Does it have an advantage even if there were enough letters left?
Easy identification of Disks in Everything. Instead of e:\folder\file, you now have c:\external\Backup1\folder\file so you know file is on Backup1 disk.

By the way, is there a way to start such a gif from the beginning manually (may be by pressing F5 but that would be a bit slow), at any time? Or to pause it? Or jump back and forward? I do not think so, but...
I'm no specialist in this area - by far - but I use voidimageviewer (yes, that is "our" void :)) and Irfanviewer to display images.
Voidimageviewer has options to step through animated GIF's (under Menu:Animation).
Download the portable version of voidimageviewer.exe; download the GIF and drag it to voidimageviewer. That should do the trick.
Don't know if Irfanview has similar possibilities (couldn't find them).

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Re: Does Everything notice a drive letter change?

Post by Biff » Mon Sep 02, 2019 10:42 am

I'm no specialist in this area - by far - but I use voidimageviewer (yes, that is "our" void :))
This is unbelievable, our...I didn't know at all! Holy pixel!
Voidimageviewer has options to step through animated GIF's (under Menu:Animation).
Yes, with that program it will work, I guess. Will try it out.

Many thanks!

...no, clicking the buttons at the bottom does not pause / play the gif here.

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Re: Does Everything notice a drive letter change?

Post by NotNull » Mon Sep 02, 2019 10:55 am

Biff wrote:
Mon Sep 02, 2019 10:42 am
...no, clicking the buttons at the bottom does not pause / play the gif here.
Those are for slideshows. use Ctrl-Space , Shift-Right , etc. from the Animation menu.

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Re: Does Everything notice a drive letter change?

Post by Biff » Mon Sep 02, 2019 11:02 am

Ah yes, works, thank you!

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Re: Does Everything notice a drive letter change?

Post by therube » Mon Sep 02, 2019 11:30 am

Media Player Classic (both MPC-BE & MPC-HC) will allow you to pause/step through the .gif.

https://sourceforge.net/projects/mpcbe/
https://mpc-hc.org/

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Re: Does Everything notice a drive letter change?

Post by Biff » Mon Sep 02, 2019 11:37 am

Great, thank you, good to use with the common shortcuts.

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