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Date modified date sometimes not up to date

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 1:55 am
by JTCGiants56
I have index date modified and fast date modified sort checked. But sometimes my date modified attribute on everything will be up to 8 hours behind (farthest I've seen). A force rebuild pulls in the correct new date modified. But is there any other way to fix this?

Re: Date modified date sometimes not up to date

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 3:02 pm
by NotNull
Are these files on a volume that is NTFS indexed or on a volume that is Folder-indexed? (they use a different scanning method)

Re: Date modified date sometimes not up to date

Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 12:44 am
by JTCGiants56
NTFS indexed volume.

Re: Date modified date sometimes not up to date

Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 1:18 am
by froggie
Is the date modified date correct when you look with Windows explorer?

Re: Date modified date sometimes not up to date

Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 2:07 am
by JTCGiants56
It is. Just noticed a weird thing. Several folders in the same directory were just updated in the last hour. 2 I checked had the correct new date in everything. But the third didn't.

Re: Date modified date sometimes not up to date

Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 11:50 pm
by JTCGiants56
I'm not sure what determines this but it seems like the maximum size and allocation delta for this drive is much bigger than my other drives. And it is smaller then them - it is 2tb and they are 8tb. Maybe this is related?

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Re: Date modified date sometimes not up to date

Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 4:42 am
by void
There is no USN change journal events for the modified date changing on a folder.

Everything will update the modified date of a folder every time a child file or folder is changed, or when the folder is modified in someway, such as renamed, or change in attributes.

Are you excluding any files under Tools -> Options -> Exclude?
Everything should still update the parent folder's modified date for changes to excluded files and folders.
Did you set a usn record filter?

Everything reads the modified date directly from the MFT.
The modified date can only be updated every few minutes for NTFS.

Everything is most likely missing a USN change event, so it does not know to update the folder's modified date.

If the issue is reproducible, could you please send some debug logs:
  • In Everything, type in the following search and press ENTER:
    /debug_log
  • Reproduce the issue.
  • Please send your %TEMP%\Everything Debug Log.txt to support@voidtools.com
Restart Everything to stop debug logging:
  • In Everything, type in the following search and press ENTER:
    /restart
The USN Journal size should not be related to the issue.

For Windows Vista and later, the default allocation size is 32768 KB, the default delta size is 4096 KB.
Your USN journal size is very large.

Notes:
Changing the size will usually only occur when the maximum size is reached, in your case this might take a very long time. I would just leave it as 2GB for now.
There is no harm in having a large USN Journal.
Space allocated for the USN Journal can not be used for files.

Re: Date modified date sometimes not up to date

Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 7:04 pm
by JTCGiants56
I reinstalled everything and it looks like this issue has resolved itself. Thanks for your assistance.

Re: Date modified date sometimes not up to date

Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2018 3:45 pm
by NotNull
Another thing that might cause the missing updates of date modified: If a file is still written to.

Examples of that:
- downloading a large file of the internet
- creating a zipfile of a lare folder
- Opening a virtual disk / diskimage for writing.

Depending on how the programs handling this are written, Everything considers them still opened and will only update date modified when done (= file is downloaded completely / all files are compressed / disk is closed)


But I don't know if this is happening in your case (8 hours is a long time ...)

Re: Date modified date sometimes not up to date

Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2018 6:58 pm
by JTCGiants56
NotNull wrote:
Sun Nov 11, 2018 3:45 pm
Another thing that might cause the missing updates of date modified: If a file is still written to.

Examples of that:
- downloading a large file of the internet
- creating a zipfile of a lare folder
- Opening a virtual disk / diskimage for writing.

Depending on how the programs handling this are written, Everything considers them still opened and will only update date modified when done (= file is downloaded completely / all files are compressed / disk is closed)


But I don't know if this is happening in your case (8 hours is a long time ...)
Ahh ok. The downloading large file thing might possibly be it. As I do dl large files frequently. I'll pay attention to that next time. Thanks.